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You are now entering the magical World of Double Rods and Overhead Casting. The true horsepower end of fly fishing. Where outsiders think we are just a bit strange with our long rods.

Please be warned that once infected by the Overhead power disease you will always need another 140 foot fix. Here we talk about a 120 foot cast as a mistake/bad cast, here we reach distances others only dream of and think impossible.

A little history, the Chinese used Doubles about 2000 years ago, the British and European about 200 plus, years ago, now thats enough history, this is today, where the 140 foot shot is fairly common with a 10/11w 15 footer.

Some silly thinking
Being broadcast by people who talk more than they cast, the number one silly thinking is, "Must have a short Double, a big rod is not suited to me". These statements are wrong, You need the biggest rod you can find, beg, borrow but don't steal.

Why, because length is your new friend, your new friend brings with it speed and multiplies the energy you apply to the casting tool and with this comes distance.

 

 
 
Learn how to cast a Double Handed Overhead fly rod, here

The loaded power of a Talon RA Overhead Rod, 10/11w - 15 foot.

Line, Shooting Head 11/12w Intermediate tip 845gr, 44Feet long.

Running/Hauling Line, Talon Advanced Running line. 30lb b/s Floating

Reel TRD # 5 ...... Fly 140mm/5.5 inch long baitfish pattern

Where, Surfers Paradise, Queensland, Australia.

Who, me, Uncle Barry.

And this is Double Overhead Rod fishing, not Tournament casting.

 
 

Other silly thinking, its too heavy, wrong, it, the rod isn't if its balanced. In fact the rod when casting will feel like a 9 footer, yes that easy or even easier when correctly balanced.

More silly thinking
The long heads are hard to use, who ever told you that doesn't know what they are talking about because they are easier to cast than a 30 footer.

Any Spey rod can be used for Overhead casting, wrong, sort of, yes they can be however the Spey Rod is designed for roll casting and forms of Spey casting, both are almost the same to me, where as the Overhead Double Rod is designed for its application and that is to cast a line Overhead first and secondly Spey cast. Like a truck designed to carry a 2 ton load and you try to carry 5 tons, the 2 tonner can but not very well, The difference between Spey and Overhead Double rods is the same. Want distance, you need a Double Rod designed for Overhead casting. Spey Rods generally have a nice parabolic curve, a medium flex rod, the Overhead rod it a fast taper almost like a fast taper spin rod.

Even more silly thinking
To cast a Double Handed Rod Overhead is hard, again this thinking is wrong. Most people when shown by some one who can cast will cast 100 feet or more in the first 10 attempts and you don't need expert instructors to reach 120 feet. After 120 foot casts, that where the real skills are needed and help. And nobody with a 9 foot fly rod can cast 120 feet when fishing, let alone for 3 hours.

Won't use a Double Handed Rod because the Running/Hauling lines always tangled or blow about the place and formed knots. Yes, that was yesterday, today we have new products to overcome these problems and make life easier. The Talon Advanced Running/Hauling line was developed to over come these problems.

Line weights are the same as the line weights for 9 foot rods. No they are not. The Double Handed Fly Rod requires a heavier line load.

Too hard to land the fish, I think thats about the best of the silly thinking, now whats harder, come home and say, I saw the fish but my casts were 70 feet or more too short, caught nothing or come home and say, I had trouble landing all the fish, my fly landed in the middle of the feeding school of fish every time and the school was only 130 feet out. Now if your like me, I am there to catch fish and they are not hard to land, just take a look at all the surf fishermen, are they having trouble?

Enough of the silly thinking, some positive thinking
Double Handed Overhead Rods are for every body, the young and the not so young, the boys and the girls.

A great fly rod for people who haven't cast or know how to cast a fly rod as they can develop the skills required very quickly and start to enjoy the thrills of horsepower fly casting into the distance.

The fly lines used on Double Rods in Overhead or Scandinavian casting are called Shooting Heads and are generally cheaper than 'normal' fly lines. The Shooting Heads are connected to the Running/Hauling line by a loop to loop connection, you can make these loops yourself, and save money and the make the loops to what you think is required, not what is in the loop packet.

Running/Hauling lines are generally cheap, cheaper than 'normal' fly lines.

45 Foot heads are really easy to cast, the long rod assists you with this task.

With practice a 11/12w Shooting Head will land on the water just like any other 12w fly line, yes there is a splash down but only lightly.

Still worried about scaring fish with you line's splash down? You shouldn't because we now add a 15 or 21 foot leader to the end of the Shooting Head and in the case of the RIO Scandinavian Shooting Head with the Intermediate tip which is a 12 foot clear section on the end of the floating body, you now have up to 33 feet between the colored line body and your fly. Most 9 foot fly rods use a 9 foot clear leader, with the Double Rod system your leader 24 feet further away from the fish you are about to trick.

You can still roll cast, you can still Spey cast, but not as beautifully and as far as the true Spey Rod.

Roll casts of 100 feet can be achieved with practice using a Double Overhead Rod and the Shooting Head lines. With increased skill levels longer casts can be reached.

So if you want to reach out to where the fish are feeding or where they broke the water, or where the early afternoon Trout are feeding way out, why not join the Double Handed Overhead Fly Rod people and really start to enjoy the thrill of reaching out into the horizon.

Not so good.
You wear out flies because of the speed and distance the fly travels in a casting session.

You always want one more shot before coming home, and this can lead to problems on the home front.

The Very Good.
We can now cast out to ranges with fishing flies that the Tournament Casters talk about, to where we only dreamed about and as a result fish are reachable, the smart fish that always stayed just out of reach, Fish, things have changed we now have a Weapon of Mass Destruction or as it is commonly called a WMD to reach out and trick you with our fur and feathers.

 
 

Leaders for Double Handed Rods, Overhead casting
Talon Rods
Talon Reels
Talon Double Rods
Talon RA Double Overhead Rods
Talon RA Double Overhead rods, the WMD Series
Talon RA Double Overhead rods, the WMD Series - complete package, Rod,Reel,Head,Running line, even the Leader
Talon Advanced Running/Hauling lines
Talon RA Spey lines
Talon RA Overhead lines for double handed fly rods

How to cast Double Overheads
Introduction to Double Overhead Rods
Common questions about Double Overhead Rods for Australia and New Zealand.

The other pages/links are under construction

 
     
 
 
     
 
If you would like to know more about the exciting World of Horsepower Fly Casting, contact Uncle Barry on Australia PH 07 55 740 047 or email
 
 
 
 
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